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State Senate 'Debate'...Chapter 2

By Al Campbell
Monday, May 19 2008, 08:38 AM

The next two questions in our 'debate' are posed below.  We'll reverse the order and feature Sen. Darling's responses to each question followed by Rep. Wasserman's responses.

What specific existing state programs can be cut to stop the ongoing issue of budget shortfalls?

Darling: 

During the 2003-05 budget process, I was the Senate Chair of the budget-writing Joint Committee on Finance.  In that budget, we cut spending on state government operations by 27.5%, without cutting core services such as programs upon which low-income citizens rely.

In addition to the types of spending cuts such as those made in that budget, it's worth discussing programs that were created or expanded in the state budget passed last fall.  In that budget, which I voted against, the Governor proposed increased spending of nearly $100 million of "general fund" revenue just for new or expanded programs.  Certainly each of those programs will will have supporters and the merit of this spending can be debated, but there ought to at least be a discussion on whether these spending increases can be set aside or delayed until we resolve the state's fiscal problems.

Earlier this May, the  Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ran an article about how some prison guards appear to be abusing the sick leave and overtime rules to inflate their salaries into the six figures.  Tightening up the sick leave and overtime policy at the Department of Corrections is just one specific example of where the state can still provide necessary services but at a lower cost to taxpayers.

Wasserman:

Instead of program closures we should have county closures.  There's no reason for Wisconsin to have 72 counties.  Counties are often just an extension of state government, and one of the primary reasons why taxes are so high in Wisconsin is because we have the third highest amount of government per capita in the nation.  For example, Appleton is in three counties; Wisconsin Dells is in four.  Bayside, in my district, is in two counties.  That means keeping multiple sets of tax records and voting lists and keeping track of different court systems, highway departments, sheriff's and veterans' offices.  I proposed legislation to downsize and streamline government by reducing the number of counties to 18 or less, a 75% reduction that would save taxpayers tens of millions of dollars.  Creating new county lines that do not divide communities artificially will consolidate services by ensuring that only one county serves each city, village or town.  It's time we changed our government structure from an 1848 model to one that meets the needs of the 21st century.

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Do you support the repeal of state minimum mark-up laws?  If so, why and if not, why not?

Darling:

Yes.  The mandatory minimum markup on gasoline was enacted in Wisconsin in the 1930s to prevent large conglomerates from entering the gasoline market and driving "ma and pa shops" out of business.  The minimum markup law requires gas retailers to mark up the price of gas by 9.18%.  The Federal Trade Commission and economists have suggested the law restricts competition, hurts consumers and drives up the cost of gas.  This antiquated law makes it illegal for Wisconsin gas retailers to offer discounts on gasoline.

U.S. Magistrate Judge William Callahan ruled in October 2007 that Wisconsin's minimum markup law violates federal anti-trust laws.  However, he did not issue an injunction against the state's law, so the law is still in place until the Legislature acts to repeal it.  I am coauthor of a bill that would repeal the minimum markup law, but the session ended in March without a vote on the bill.

Wasserman:

I have voted for every single repeal of the minimum mark-up law since I've been in the legislature.  I have been very frustrated by legislators in both the Republican and Democratic party who would rather talk about the free market than support it and have refused to take up this issue.

In addition to supporting a full repeal, I introduced legislation that would repeal the minimum mark-up on prescription drugs.  Recently Wal-Mart and Target expanded their $4 a month discount drug programs, but the minimum mark-up law prevents such programs from taking full effect in Wisconsin.  You might think we'd have to go to Canada to buy cheap drugs but no, all we have to do is go to Illinois, where blood pressure medication that costs $28 here sells for $4 there.  It's bad enough that we're paying more for gas because of the minimum mark-up law, but paying more for medication becomes a life and death issue when people are facing such tough times with their budgets.  The minimum mark-up law in all forms has to go, but let's begin with my proposal, which will drastically reduce the cost of healthcare in Wisconsin.

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My thanks to both Sen. Darling and Rep. Wasserman for making this forum possible.  We have more questions already answered and will produce another of these 'debates' in the next week or so.

In the meantime, please help us by sending you questions or subjects you'd like to see addressed, and I'll gather the information from both the incumbent and the challenger so that all can share in the answers.  You can do so in the form of comments tied to this Blog or simply by clicking the email link at the top of this Blog to reach me that way.

Comments

Irwin Fletcher   

Rep.Wasserman

Your idea is one that former Govenor Scott McCallum stated as a goal and was run out of office. I agree that there is way to much government but what specifically are you going to do to make it happen? Are you putting forth legislation, if so when, and specifically what will it call for? Will you also expand your idea to the K-12 public school system? As there are over 247 school districts in Wisconsin,many of which are 1 school districts are you going to mandate that they merge as well? The savings there would be huge and could all go right back into the classroom.

So Rep. Wasserman, please provide the details of your plan and the timeline for implimentation, as I have heard this before and it seems to go nowhere. Also if this does go nowhere what is your followup position, what will you cut to stop the ongoing budget deficits?

May 19, 2008 12:35 PM

Sheldon Wasserman   

Thanks for the question and for your interest in this debate.

Assembly Bill 438 would begin by creating a legislative task force charged with developing a plan to reduce the number of counties in this state from 72 to 18 or less. The bill requires the task force to develop a written proposal to submit to members of the Joint Committee on Finance by January 2011. JFC will be charged with holding public hearings, reviewing and approving the plan. You can read the full text of the bill at:

www.legis.state.wi.us/.../AB-438.pdf

I do not support having the state take over control of our schools. The state already has a lot of control over what counties can and can’t do, but I’m a strong proponent of keeping our schools under local control. It’s important to create policies that foster consolidation where it makes sense and saves money, though decisions about our school districts should be made locally.

May 20, 2008 8:24 AM

Irwin Fletcher   

Thank You for your response. 2011 is three years away and the state is broke today. What will you support today to get the state out of the financial mess it is in? We cannot continue on the same reckless path that we are on.

Also as Washington County is in much better fiscal shape that the state of Wisconsin, why should the county turn over its operations to the state? Why doesnt the state turn over their operations to the county? If the schools are best run at the local level why not government? How about instead of Germantown residents turning over tax revenue to the state, where it goes through layers of waste only for local government to get back a few pennies, why can't we keep the tax revenue from our area here so that our roads and services are paid for locally. Germantown and Washington County have done a very good job of attracting businesses to the region whereas the failed policies of Milwaukee require our tax dollars to support badly run schools and a governmental body that has driven business away. I would rather see my tax dollars stay here to fix our roads and provide for our police and fire than turn them over to a Democratic govenor who continues to raid funds to pay for wasteful programs.

Your thoughts

May 20, 2008 10:17 AM

Interested_Voter   

Thanks Mr. Campbell for putting this debate toegether!  It is important for this area to get to know the candidates a little better then what can be gleaned off of their respective websites.

I do have some questions for Senator Darling:

I recently received a Wisconsin highway map from your office, even though I never requested one. Inside was a flyer talking about your campaign goals.

I did appreciate the map, but did you send the maps to every house in the district whether they requested one or not? Was this something you paid for out of your campaign account, or was this something the citizens of Wisconsin paid for?  If it was, do you think this is the best way for our tax dollars to be spent?

I look forward to your answers!

May 21, 2008 12:59 PM

Al Campbell   

Senator Alberta Darling responds to 'Interested Voter':

Dear Interested Voter,

The State of Wisconsin prints state highway maps and legislators are given an allotment to distribute to their constituents.  Along with that 2008 state highway map, you received a contact card from me from my state office, not my campaign.  On that card is information about what I'm working on in Madison and how you can join my Email Club or contact me at my office.

May 24, 2008 6:35 AM

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