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Kyle and her husband moved to Brookfield in 1986. She became active in local politics and started blogging in 2004. Her focus is primarily on local issues but often includes state and national topics, too. Kyle looks at things from the taxpayers’ perspective in a creative, yet down to earth way, addressing them from a practical point of view.

No Surprise, Percheron Square PDD Passed First Hurdle, or Should I Say Jump

By Kyle Prast
Monday, Jun 9 2008, 11:23 PM

I got back from the Plan Commission Meeting 30 min.ago. Dan Ertl spoke for a long time, then Ajay Kuttemperoor made the presentation for AVS Development.

The question of connectivity came up because Patrick Blvd. probably will not be able to connect to Percheron Square. It would need to traverse the neighbor's wetlands and DNR approval is doubtful. Sara Lane is probably out too. That would need to cross the neighbor's parking lot. Ruby Lane is a no. The school district was not in favor of a land swap. (Phew!)

Despite Alderman Mark Nelson's concerns that, "I get a feeling we're going a little fast. If we say 'yes' tonight, what are we agreeing to?" and Jennifer Donze's many good questions, the PDD for Percheron Square passed unanimously.

All it took was Alderman Gary Mahkorn to say something like, We're being asked to approve a PDD general plan, we're not committing to anything right now [such as Mark and Jennifer's issues]. All the detail isn't there [now, but it doesn't need to be there].

Gary went on to say, I am prepared to approve the request tonight. All the other tough questions will be answered down the road. 

They voted shortly after. All said, Aye. Think we might see a few more Nay votes if they switched to the electronic voting boxes?

More about this tomorrow.  



Past posts: VK's Percheron Square a.k.a. Ruby Farm Proposal Heads to Plan Commission Monday, 7pm 

Other VK news

Commission to look at Ruby Farm plans 

Fairly Conservative's Percheron Square, Brookfield, Wisconsin

Links:

counter hit xanga

Brookfield7, Fairly Conservative, Betterbrookfield,
Mark Levin , Vicki Mckenna

 

Comments

Cindy   

Honestly, Kyle, that was above and beyond your call of duty. I left at 8:30 and felt like I'd been stretched on the rack!

Why doesn't it surprise anyone? The plan commission never stands in the way of these half-baked ideas. When they don't pan out down the road, they just shrug their shoulders and hope for better next time.

We have a few half-baked ideas in this city that never panned out. Doesn't deter this group frame making the same mistakes over and over again. I think it's starting to cost this community in terms of prestige and viability to have so many projects go poorly.

Kyle's reply: Don't put me up for a Girl Scout badge just yet, the time stamp shows the time I posted, not the time I started writing. I think I was home by 10?

I would have liked to have stayed for part 2 on historic preservation.

June 10, 2008 12:13 AM

Santa's Elf   

"I would have liked to have stayed for part 2 on historic preservation."

Ald. Berg recently covered that one in his blog. Any attempt what-so-ever to thwart the pirates of progress will cost us big, through the nose or any other available orifice. Apparently Mr. Progresso's idea of history is "anything built last year"!

June 10, 2008 12:39 PM

My Two Cents   

From what I'm hearing, city hall isn't too concerned about access and connectibility to the existing office park neighbor.  Wouldn't that be a a primary concern?  This is another example of poor planning with the original development in this area, specifically frontage roads and traffic flow. The Percheron Square developers should design the main access by way of Blue Mound Road, not past the elementary school and residential development on Calhoun Road. If Ald. Nelson and Ms. Donze had valid concerns about important issues, what is the hurry to approve a PDD? This is supposed to be a "centerpiece."  I'm still trying to figure out the odd traffic patterns at Fountain Square and Towne Center.

June 10, 2008 2:22 PM

Santa's Elf   

"I'm still trying to figure out the odd traffic patterns at Fountain Square and Towne Center."

Both of these emulate the Downtown City of Waukesha Paradigm.

June 10, 2008 10:30 PM

My Two Cents   

Oh yeah, I forgot about that maze!  I've got to believe these developments are designed by people who don't drive in these developments!!!  

June 11, 2008 8:14 AM

mikeyd   

Santa's Elf,

I missed your point in discussing the historical perservation proposal.. I could not tell if you were for or against it.  Based on what I read in Ald. Berg's blog, it seems that the issue was placed on the 2035 Maste Plan Task Force to decide what is deemed a historical property and to decide whether the public wants this type of preservation.  The blog mentioned nothing about preservation cost to the taxpayer, so i don't understand the context of 'any attempt to thwart would cost us big'..  I could not tell who you were referring to as the  'pirates' and who was 'Mr. Progresso'.  Are both the council, are both the developers in the city, is one Ald. Berg for suggesting preservation? It seems most here (including you) like the idea of limiting development, so i would have thought you would be in favor of some type of preservation measures. Your response seems to say the opposite, but it is hard to tell unless one is familiar with your ambiguous code names.

June 11, 2008 12:05 PM

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